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Post by reddogboy81 on Sept 10, 2009 8:34:13 GMT -5
Hey out there, I want to get into the 1/8 bigger trucks and from what I've seen I like buggies the most. I don't want to go nitro but Im pretty sure that means I will have to convert what ever I get to electric. Im just wondering what your opinions are regarding the best buggy out there. I would like to start racing with it so as durable as possible. Also if you happen to know of another place I can go to get some info on the subject let me know. Thanks guys.
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Post by Steve on Sept 10, 2009 18:44:20 GMT -5
How much are you willing to spend? There are a bunch of options out there from HPI, Losi, and Associated that come either as Brushless rollers or Brushless RTR's. You could also buy a 1/8 buggy roller and just convert the rest to brushless. All you'd really have to buy is a BL motor mount and a battery tray. I've done 3 conversions so far, so let me know with any other questions you have  |
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Post by reddogboy81 on Sept 10, 2009 20:40:20 GMT -5
As far as money goes, I have no idea. I guess my cap is 1000. But if I don't have to spend it I don't want to. I was at the national races here in Edmonton and I watched the brushlless truggy open. There was a buggy in there with them and he showed them all up. He didn't win but the control and grace of the car was way more fun to watch. I didn't get a chance to ask what it was but if I could have that truck that would be the one. All I know is it needs to be four wheel drive, all steel drive train, and so on. I was looking at the Ofna site and the OFNA ULTRA LX-1e Looks pretty cool. That being said I don't like (out of the box). I like doing it myself. So if I have to convert something to get a better truck I'm all for it. Any help you can give is greatly appreciated.
Someone local is selling a duratrax raze. any good?
Thanks
Lee
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Post by Steve on Sept 12, 2009 12:12:46 GMT -5
Stay away from the Raze, Id get a better buggy than that. The LX-1e should be a nice buggy, but if you plan on racing, Id go with something a little more race oriented. The LX1 is geared more towards the basher and everyday runner versus a race buggy. Not to say you cant take it to the track though.
Chances are the guy in the race was running a Losi or Associated, but it could have been something else. If you really want to do it yourself, buy a Losi Eight buggy roller and buy Losi's brushless conversion for it. Its a pretty simple install and works well.
As for the electronics I'd go with either a Castle Creations 1/8th system or the Tekin RX8 BL system. Both are great.
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Post by reddogboy81 on Sept 13, 2009 1:50:35 GMT -5
Im weary of Losi. I have a mini lst and it is nothing but trouble. I don't like working on it, to do one thing you have to remove everything else. I still haven't owned an associated truck so I can't say what my opinions are. From what ive seen the look pretty good. Its not fair for me to judge losi solely on one truck so I'lll keep my eyes out but in the mean time what associated bugggy would you suggest? Is duratrax a good brand or are all there trucks on your watch out for list?
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Post by Steve on Sept 13, 2009 10:07:25 GMT -5
Duratrax are known for having cheaper quality stuff and I have not heard good things about the Raze buggy, which is why I recommended staying away from it. The Losi 8ight is a nice buggy, I know a bunch of people that have been happy with them. Associated's are also great stuff. Check this out: 67.199.85.166/ae/rc8e/rc8e_home.php |
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Post by fuyutime2 on Sept 13, 2009 11:23:19 GMT -5
loks nice
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Post by reddogboy81 on Sept 13, 2009 12:01:53 GMT -5
I like it, But it seems have a lot of plastic(composite) on it. Plastic gears are a pain in smaller trucks let alone 1/8. At the same time plastic bends which means flex when you crash which is a good thing. There are so many options out there its kind of overwhelming. Steve I'm gonna go with your first instinct and really check out the losi 8ight.
On a similar topic, I run 7.4 5000 mah 20c lipo packs on my slash. Paired together would they be enough to run the 8ight in a comp. race?
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Post by Steve on Sept 13, 2009 12:30:11 GMT -5
The AE doesnt have plastic gears, no worries on that The good thing about plastic is that its much lighter which = faster. Thats why they did it. Its the same reason you dont see Pro racers using aluminum arms, etc. on their race buggies / trucks. As for the dual 7.4 5000 packs, those would be fine. Run them in series for a 4s 5000mah and it will power it fine. Heres a list of other possible options for you too: www.amainhobbies.com/index.php/cPath/1_44_1258The Hot Bodies Ve8 just came out and is another great option. The D8 platform that its based off of is an awesome buggy and does really well on and off the track. I'd take a good look at that one also. (cant beat the price either). |
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Post by reddogboy81 on Sept 13, 2009 15:45:45 GMT -5
Thanks Steve you have been very helpful. I say again this site is awesome.
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Post by reddogboy81 on Sept 17, 2009 17:35:40 GMT -5
So I've narrowed it down to three. The Losi 8ight, the Associated rc8 and the ofna hyper 9. All seem to be pretty amazing buggies and all within the same price range once converted. So I thought I would see if there are any other opinions out there on which of these is the way to go. Steve you had said earlier that the OFNA ULTRA LX-1e is more a of a bashing tuck and not a competitor. I'm just wondering if you can tell me why, is it to heavy? Hard to set up?or is it just not built to handle the strains of racing? Also is there a benifit to servo breaking instead of motor breaking? Thanks guys I really appreciate any opinions you have.
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Post by huskersforever on Sept 26, 2009 14:17:01 GMT -5
HPI has their new 1/8 scale brushless buggy the Vorza or something like that!
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Post by Steve on Sept 27, 2009 23:11:35 GMT -5
So I've narrowed it down to three. The Losi 8ight, the Associated rc8 and the ofna hyper 9. All seem to be pretty amazing buggies and all within the same price range once converted. So I thought I would see if there are any other opinions out there on which of these is the way to go. Steve you had said earlier that the OFNA ULTRA LX-1e is more a of a bashing tuck and not a competitor. I'm just wondering if you can tell me why, is it to heavy? Hard to set up?or is it just not built to handle the strains of racing? Also is there a benifit to servo breaking instead of motor breaking? Thanks guys I really appreciate any opinions you have. The LX-1e is a beefier buggy, and heavier than the others. The steering setups on the other buggies are also better which will obvisouly in turn give you better steering All 3 of those buggies are excellent choices and I think you'd be happy with any of them. If I had to choose though it'd either be the Hyper 9 or Losi 8. |
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Post by reddogboy81 on Oct 1, 2009 11:06:11 GMT -5
Ok I can't fight it anymore I think I have to go with the losi. I went to my lhs and its the only one that they stock parts for readily. I'm going to get the nitro and convert it. So with that in mind is there anything I need to look out for when buying a used roller. The guy at the hobby store said that I could use the servo breaking to adjust breaks front front to rear instead of depending on the motor to do all the work, which sound cool to me. Are all of the Losi 8ight versions pretty much the same? Or are there older models that I should steer clear of?
Thanks all especially you Steve.
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Post by Steve on Oct 3, 2009 19:54:22 GMT -5
All of the Losi 8's are good buggies, none are a bad choice. If you can get the 2.0 version over the 1.0, obviously go for it, but there is a fairly steep price difference.
As for mechanical brakes... I dont use them, I think its just extra hardware thats not needed on the buggy. The motor / esc provide plenty of braking power in both my buggy and truggy, I just personally dont see a need for the mechanical brakes.
When buying a used roller, check the parts, see if anything is bent, any cracks, look at the bottom of the chassis (if its all scratched up that means its had alot of use obviously), and make sure the shocks and diffs are smooth.
Good luck with your purchase, I look forward to hearing how it works out for you.
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